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Author Topic: Slate 3 goes PTP  (Read 10628 times)
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« on: February 18, 2009, 07:11:43 PM »

When I first started building Slate 3 it was with a PTP in mind.  The plinth was ready before the PTP arrived so I cut down an GL72 flat plate and carried on expecting to replace it when the PTP arrived.
Well, what with a house move and a few other things it never happened.  Then I took the GL72 plate off to make some adjustments and managed to bend it :.  I just about got it back on and flat but wasn't happy so I decided to fit the PTP after all.  Off came the GL72 plate again and on with the PTP, or so I thought.  I hadn't realised that Peter had realigned the motor a little which meant that when I stuck the plate on the slate it was not square, in fact it was way off.  Bum :-[.  What to do?  Choices seemed to be cut the slate about, cut the PTP or start a new deck with the PTP.  Trouble was the GL72 plate was now well and truly knackered so I couldn't simply put the slate plinth back together.  Also I like the look of Slate 3 and a PTP would have altered its simple lines.
So today, having finally got rid of a lot of junk cluttering up the garage (or lencoshop) I finally had room to wield the angle grinder once more!



Here's a pic of part of the lencoshop



and here's the plate now in primer



Slate 3 should be playing again soon ;D
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« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2009, 07:42:36 PM »

Good luck! I look forward to seeing the rest of your journey...
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« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2009, 08:58:37 PM »

Like the use of safety clothing ;D
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« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2009, 09:21:57 PM »

Like the use of safety clothing ;D 

You can't see the metal codpiece protecting the essentials! 
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« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2009, 09:58:03 PM »

Defo the right choice Ian.  ;D
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« Reply #5 on: February 18, 2009, 11:43:41 PM »

OK, loose fit and appearance wise it seems to have worked OK.  Th PTP is sprayed matt black and is almost invisible from any sensible viewing angle.

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« Reply #6 on: February 19, 2009, 12:40:19 AM »

Wow, great progress Ian.   And done with an angle grinder in your shop to boot.  What an artist!
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« Reply #7 on: February 19, 2009, 01:13:48 PM »

Looking good Ian wink
Wouldn't it be better to cut these two flappy pointy bits left at the back of the motor area?
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« Reply #8 on: February 19, 2009, 01:47:02 PM »

Thanks chaps, I quite surprised myself that it came out circular wink.   Yes, Peter, you're right!  I decided to drill the slate down to the aluminium layer and put cut down plugs in so any vibrations don't get to the aluminium.  This worked a treat, the plate screwed down nice and tight.  Trouble is I couldn't get the motor plate with motor attached through the gap because of one of those little prongs >sad.  You know the weight of these things and taking it off its wall shelf to upturn it is no fun!  Glad you don't mind what I've done to your plate!

Anyway, getting close now, just got to fix the motor plate and idler wheel then it should be playing.

Cheers, Ian
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« Reply #9 on: February 19, 2009, 01:48:44 PM »

Your the MAN !!   you do work with speed !!!

I see you shaved you the back of hands before the use of angle grinder so your hands do not catch fire - nice safety approach  ;D
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« Reply #10 on: February 19, 2009, 06:14:47 PM »

Listen, it was pretty cold down in the workshop so any heat was welcome.  Anyway, David, you got hairy hands?  I know it's Darwin's bicentenary but I like to think I'm fairly well removed from my ape cousins ;D.

OK to business, it's playing.  Who else hates putting things back together?  I'm getting too old for lying on my back threading wires behind racks and trying to find phono sockets by touch only.   :

So, two tracks in and it's a Lenco, pure and simple.  Whacking amounts of bass, huge soundstage, lots of detail etc, etc.  Sounds good to me but let's let everything warm up a bit.  what with decorating, shifting the room round and everything else, I haven't played a record since Christmas :-[
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« Reply #11 on: February 19, 2009, 08:18:34 PM »

Good going!

No records since Christmas eh, you have a lot of catching up to do then. Go play!
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« Reply #12 on: February 19, 2009, 09:24:33 PM »

Look forward to a full synopsis of the sound plus a few more pics of the new deck.
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« Reply #13 on: February 20, 2009, 02:44:31 PM »

Well I've had a chance to listen to a few LP's now and get a feel of the sound.  I suppose the fundamental question is is the PTP an improvement over the cut down Lenco plate that was on this slate plinth to begin with.  Well the answer is a definite


Most obvious thing is the absolute rock solid presentation of the music.  Notes start and stop with no overhang, it's tight alright, and the dynamics are quite scary.  Out of nowhere notes just hit you.  Soundstage is superbly three dimensional extending beyond the speakers on records that have it, not all do.  That old trick of a good vinyl set up reducing surface noise is there, still don't understand that but clicks and pops seem part of the music instead of an irritation.  Basically it does what a well set up Lenco on a decently weighty plinth does but more so.  If there is a beat there this beast throws it at you - foot tapping is involuntary.  If I have one criticism there is still a bit of harshness with high vocals but that was there before and I'm putting it down to the still very young Zu Denon which only has about 20-30 LP's under its belt. 

In summary the PTP builds on the already excellent Lenco sound.  It's a tighter, more dynamic full blown technicolor presentation.  I love it!
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« Reply #14 on: February 20, 2009, 02:52:40 PM »

I am happy you are happy

time for some



and then some?

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