1950's Philips and Wigo find... Any ideas?

[BoringSounds]

Dear all,
   well I have done it again...

Found what I thought was a pair of 50's speakers.






That turned out to be two separate speakers...



1st up a Philips EL7020






2nd up a Wigo not sure of the model number yet...???








It seems I attract these things... or maybe I go out and look for them, I do not know but this is starting to get out of hand...

Any ideas what should be done with them?
Quite like the look of the wigo.
For the Philips it looks like a 100v PA system speaker, don't know what could be done with it, whether or not the transformer could be removed and used normally or not?

Thanks

[SchlumbergerTD212]

Hi Boringsounds,

Love the look.

Err, this will be a very obvious suggestion. Have you measured the impedance?

Phillips did some very weird impedances on their radio speakers: very high impedances negating the need for using an output transformer. Take a look at the Phillips Capella radios for example. With any luck your speakers will be normal 16, 8 or 4 ohmers!

Mark

[hatehifi]

Hi David, ever read the book Sambo? Well, ol' Sambo managed to step in the mioddle of every pie! Hey, I know what you're saying, been there, done that. Sorry ou got ripped off but maybe you tell the 'next' buyer this, that is, "hey, guys, I got a this, and I got a that..." and see if you can find yourself some decent speakers, chassis that match. Or did I miss something?

Cheers!

[BoringSounds]

Hi Boringsounds,
Love the look.
Err, this will be a very obvious suggestion. Have you measured the impedance?
Phillips did some very weird impedances on their radio speakers: very high impedances negating the need for using an output transformer. Take a look at the Phillips Capella radios for example. With any luck your speakers will be normal 16, 8 or 4 ohmers!
Mark

Thanks, will check when I can find the meter...

On another note, I mainly bought the "pair" as a curiosity...
So not upset them not being a matching pair of cones. I like the look of the boxes  

[nic]

did you not perhaps just buy a  mono channel speaker "system"? 

Ask Renee he's the resident Philips expert....

Whatever it turns out to be, I personally like the baffles. Very chic!

[hatehifi]

did you not perhaps just buy a  mono channel speaker "system"?  

Ask Renee he's the resident Philips expert....

Whatever it turns out to be, I personally like the baffles. Very chic!

Nic's right and wait till Rene sees them, tres retro chic, indeed, and maybe with some sheep's wool damping in back of the cones, absolutely delightful sounding.

[Jatik]

Hi David

Nice 50's find.. 

Those might been classroom speakers, hence the similar outlook and hanging attachment on back..

[BoringSounds]

They originally came from YLE (the Finnish national broadcaster, like BBC).

They have been sitting in someones storage since the late 60's...

Still searching for my multimeter to test them

thanks for all the comments

[Rolf Zetterberg]

The same Wigo,but with a single cone.The number stamped on the leg might well be a production date.
http://www.german-vintage-loudspeakers.com/navid.687/wigo-245-cm-full-range-driver-with-bonn-alnico-magnets.htm

[BoringSounds]

The same Wigo,but with a single cone.The number stamped on the leg might well be a production date.
http://www.german-vintage-loudspeakers.com/navid.687/wigo-245-cm-full-range-driver-with-bonn-alnico-magnets.htm

Thanks for that...
Yes looks like the same speaker...
Now to try and find the specs for it..
And think about building a nice cabinet for it, or maybe even open
who knows..

[RR1957]

Hello, I do find this thread today, after a year!
Sorry for that, it never caught my eyes.
Why now?

Yesterday I used the Triotrack Companion outdoors while the King's Birthday Party was going on in my street.
I put the Companion on a small table and played a lot of fifties singels on it.
Indoors I knew the Companion sounds very good for such a record player with a very good bass sound.
Not all the Companions do that, because they were made in more than five years in the late fifties and in
the beginning of the sixties. Production could be different every year with using different components.
See also my thread on LH about the Companion.
http://www.lencoheaven.net/forum/index.php?topic=14791.0

But how does it go outside in the open air?
Astonishing I must say!
A friend of me who was visiting my small terrace and an expert in beautiful after-war radio's (he does have a
large collection) and hifi speakers was amazed by the sound of the Companion, as was I and people passing
on the street.
Although I made some pictures last year when I got the Companion, I didn't look what kind of speaker the
music box did have.
So, after yesterday an inspection was necessary.
And I found out the speaker is a WIGO speaker. I have never heard of that brand.
With searching on Google I came in this thread..........

So, here are some pictures.
Indeed a good looking speaker with really a great sound.
Specially if you notice it is working in a simpel box.
The speaker is about 22x14 cm. 5 ohm.








About the Philips EL7020
http://www.hupse.eu/radio/speakers/EL7020.htm

Sorry I respond sooooo late.....

The little 'terrace' in front of my house with the Companion in practice.

[BoringSounds]

Hi René,
   no problems at all, you made it in the end 

Nice to hear you are using the Companion and that other people had the chance to enjoy your sounds. Seems you had a nice day, with good company.

Since I posted about these speakers, I have tested them and they seem to function as they should.

The wigo has a very nice midrange, I only tested it without a wooden surround. I have a plan one day to try it back in its original housing fixed to a wall.
The Philips, I have not tried giving it any music as it is a 100volt system speaker. Not to sure what I will use it for, if you know of anybody that would be interested in having this for their collection do let me know, I would be willing to make a donation 
 
Maybe your ears were burning the other day http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/are_your_ears_burning, I mentioned you in another thread
http://www.lencoheaven.net/forum/index.php?topic=6904.msg233047#msg233047

Wishing you a good week
David

[RR1957]

Hi David.

Thanks for your reply and the same wish to you.
I replied to you in the other thread.

[Jake Armitage]

I can add a bit of info on the WIGO - I have two of them that I picked up separately many moons ago - both in homemade cabinets.

Someone had helpfully put a piece of tape on one of them that said 16 ohms.

Here is a picture of the optional tweeters that my speakers have:



The ones I found had a single capacitor crossover.

That tweeter layout is similar to that which the American manufacturer Bozak sometimes used:



Since I found them as singleton speakers I suspect they were made in the early to mid fifties.

I live in the U.S. and the first one I found had to be reconed. Apparently there is a fundamental difference in the cones on U.S. speakers and European speakers (or at least West German ones) - took 9 months to get a cone sent over (this was in the days long before the internet) to repair it.

Here is an ad for the WIGO speaker in question: