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« Reply #15 on: March 04, 2016, 07:26:35 PM »

 Needlekiller/PDE2000

 I knew I joined the right community, you're incredible.

 The motor plate is as you describe it with Teac 301 Tokyo
Denki - Onkyo Co.Ltd. Japan. The top plate is quite similar
differing in the step where the transmission is and top
plate cutouts. To make a guess I'd say the one I have would
be of a later generation.

Dan.
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« Reply #16 on: March 05, 2016, 04:15:42 PM »

The purpose of two idler pulleys are for 33.3 and 45. The motor is mounted to
a concentric plate and shaft assembly (transmission). When the desired speed
(33.3) is selected the motor pivots on its axis and engages with the idler
associated with that speed and engages the platter. The second idler pulley is
passive. When 45 is selected the motor pivots on its axis in the opposite
direction, engages with the idler pulley associated with that speed and engages
the platter. The idler pulley for 33.3 then becomes passive.
 The top plate is made from a cast alloy approx. 6mil in thickness, very well
supported with reinforcing ribs.
 The bearing is approx. 13mil in diameter and shaped with a conical shaft.
This point rests on a thrust plate (shim) with a fibrous backing and a small
circular piece of felt at the cap end. I could only guess the fibre and felt are
used not only to absorb any transmitted noise but also to act as a wick for
the bearing lube.
 Going to spend a bit of time building a simple mock-up while searching for
a tone arm.  Looking at a 12" arm, considering starting with a Jelco.
Any and all opinions/suggestions are greatly appreciated.

Thanx

Dan.


Totally off topic and almost irrelevant Dan, but please use mm for millimeters and mil for 0.001inch  embarrassed
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« Reply #17 on: March 05, 2016, 04:43:23 PM »

Best to regard 0.001" as a thou as mil is still ambiguous these days even though its used in the USA, which means nothing.  shocked grin

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« Reply #18 on: March 05, 2016, 06:15:53 PM »

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I wanted to say: if you were sitting 'round the corner, I would personally bring one of my Lencos over and take that deck with me....
I have friend in Kitchener but not planning to visit soon, unfortunately.
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« Reply #19 on: March 05, 2016, 10:47:11 PM »

 Werner
 
 mm it is, thou. is .0001

 Steffan

 pm me and we can discuss this
Kitchener is all of 30mins from me
it'll be worth the drive.

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« Reply #20 on: March 06, 2016, 08:26:38 AM »

The purpose of two idler pulleys are for 33.3 and 45. The motor is mounted to
a concentric plate and shaft assembly (transmission). When the desired speed
(33.3) is selected the motor pivots on its axis and engages with the idler
associated with that speed and engages the platter. The second idler pulley is
passive. When 45 is selected the motor pivots on its axis in the opposite
direction, engages with the idler pulley associated with that speed and engages
the platter. The idler pulley for 33.3 then becomes passive.
 The top plate is made from a cast alloy approx. 6mil in thickness, very well
supported with reinforcing ribs.
 The bearing is approx. 13mil in diameter and shaped with a conical shaft.
This point rests on a thrust plate (shim) with a fibrous backing and a small
circular piece of felt at the cap end. I could only guess the fibre and felt are
used not only to absorb any transmitted noise but also to act as a wick for
the bearing lube.
 Going to spend a bit of time building a simple mock-up while searching for
a tone arm.  Looking at a 12" arm, considering starting with a Jelco.
Any and all opinions/suggestions are greatly appreciated.

Thanx

Dan.



Thanks for the detailed explanation Dan. Sounds like a very good solid record player.....I new what 13 mil was, spelt as it is spoken. wink

I bought a Karmadon Viscous damped unipivot tonearm 12″ just last week. http://www.karmadon.net/shop/viscous-damped-unipivot-tonearm-12/

Seems to work very well, good price and looks pretty cool to boot. Worth considering.
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« Reply #21 on: March 06, 2016, 10:26:20 AM »


 
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« Reply #22 on: March 06, 2016, 05:51:45 PM »

 Paul
Thanx for the recommendation, looks to be a well made arm
and priced in line with the Jelco. The fellow I got the table from
has a AT 1501 mk. 3 or a Victor UA 7802 which are offered at
a fair price (comparable to the Jelco). I'm just a little apprehensive
on purchasing a used arm which I have zero knowledge. As this
project is a new experience for me, I'd hate to commit to a used arm
and find I'm left with an expensive paper weight.

 Chris
 azn azn azn Thanx for catching that error. With all honesty I
noticed my mistake after posting but thought I'd just leave it alone
and put it out there for the world to see. More errors to follow. More Fool Me.

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« Reply #23 on: March 08, 2016, 07:40:46 PM »

Werner
 
 mm it is, thou. is .0001

0.001" is a thou, 0.0001" is a tenth of a thou(1 ten thousand of an inch).  grin

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« Reply #24 on: March 08, 2016, 09:27:17 PM »

 
 Congratulations Andy, silver medal awarded.

 Dan.

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« Reply #25 on: November 02, 2017, 01:40:12 PM »

Hello to all music lovers !
I upgrade my analog set with rare Yamaha HI - FI turntable made in 1957 for mono LPs.
Case made from beech wood, tonearm I think vintage Grace.
Cartridge Ortofon CG25Di-mk2.



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« Reply #26 on: November 02, 2017, 05:32:34 PM »

Lovely! I don't think these ever made it to the UK...
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« Reply #27 on: May 21, 2020, 02:25:29 PM »

Hi,

just swapped in a KT 3. An overlooked rarity.

Interesting feature is the switch for two mains frequencies. It operates at 50 or 60 Hz. Japan has differnt regions with different frequencies. So this one would have right speed nationwide in Japan.....and the rest of the world. 100V rating makes a transformer necessary, but not necessarily a speed controller, if it had only 60Hz.
Probably just by another capacitor size...

When the Westrex stereo cutting gear was presented in Japan, a Yamaha KT 3 was used to play the first stereo discs to the audience of the event.


I have asked a friend in Japan about this deck and he sent some information and pics:

Yamaha KT 1 -KT 3


From an article about turntable manufacturing at Tokyo Terebi Onkyo (TTO) in 1956:
This turntable was designed by Katsuma Tani, founder of TTO and TEAC.
He worked an aircraft institute during the WW2.
After the war, he moved Denon and developed instruments used in NHK with Koichi Tsubota (founder of Denon).
Yamaha KT-1(3) was an OEM product by TTO. It was one of the earliest idler drive turntables for professional and high-end applications in Japan. At that time, wow flatter and noise were much reduced compared with any other Japanese turntable.

KT-3 is a high-end turntable sold between 1956 to 1964 for professional applications.
I heard it was introduced in many schools or public auditoriums, as well as high-end amateurs.
Originally, KT-3 was developed as KT-1 by Tokyo Terebi Onkyo (TTO), which was the preceding company of TEAC.
KT-1 had two variations, KT-1 (induction motor model) and KT-1H (synchronous motor model).
The production was moved to Yamaha, and the design was modified by GK design Inc.

Here is the info of the late model. https://audio-heritage.jp/YAMAHA/etc/kt-3.html

Here are the ADs of Yamaha KT-1 turntable from Radio Gijyutsu Magazine in 1956.








I like the Yamaha logo with grand piano....

Cheers
Thomas
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« Reply #28 on: May 21, 2020, 02:58:30 PM »

Very cool turntable.

I believe those Yamaha-branded Grey clone tonearms were made by Grace.
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« Reply #29 on: May 21, 2020, 06:04:38 PM »

You could run a tram (streetcar?) off that motor.  Deeply envious.

Cheers Steve
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