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Author Topic: Mr. Metzner Comes Home  (Read 3730 times)
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« on: April 14, 2010, 12:58:43 AM »









This is mainly a photo expose of a just finished build of a Metzner Starlite turntable. For a more detailed look at the history of this unique hybrid drive, have a look at this thread:

http://www.lencoheaven.net/forum/index.php?topic=1627.0

What made this build finally possible (it’s been over four years of a wait) was the machining of platter sleeves that corrected a design defect that caused all these tables to develop serious platter wobble.
Here is the new sleeve after it was fabricated and pressed in:







Prior to beginning the traditional sandwich plinth, the wiring was redone so that the neon strobe light could be killed during the playing of a record. This secondary circuit took over the former power switch and would be down line from a new toggle to be installed on the armboard.



By abandoning the electrical box shield, I was able to take advantage of two additional stock holes toward the front of the topplate to get a total of five, 2 ½” deck screws from the top. (There are 18, 4 ½” deck screws from the bottom.)



A nice piece of Corian served as an armboard and power switch mount. Since was going to be pretty long, I left in a mid-length cross member - two Birch layers deep - to give it more stability and less tympanic properties.





When Gary (AZ) offered up his AT 1009 last year, I was all over it. The pneumatic lever for the armlift was not part of the deal, so a Colton Varilift from the 301/401 era was incorporated.







Trip over cords and cables should not be a problem and for feet (and there are four), I found a gentleman in Hong Kong selling sets of points & cups on the Cheapside. They’re nice and heavy.

Since this Metzner will be performing modified DJ work (old style) at AudioKarma Fest 2010 in two weeks, calibrating quick changes between Stereo, Mono and 78 play was essential. Coupled with the Audio-Technica’s sliding tube weight and Stanton’s DJ headshells with screw-in weights, VTF will not be a problem.






One area that needed a bit of finagling was to increase the anti-skate from the AT’s max of 3 grams to 3 ¾ grams (the minimum I found was needed with a 1 mil tipped G.E. VR II on this arm, while still maintaining minimal compensation for the light-tracking an Astatic moving flux MF-200.) After numerous trials, I landed on 7/8ths of and inch (23mm) of .062 inch solid core solder wrapped around the stock weight.



So with a cheat sheet and feeler gauges for VTA (washers as measuring shims), I’ve been practicing quick format conversions to cover 60 years of records.

Extremely pleased so far. Tapping the plinth is hardly audible. There is less inherent rumble with this drive than non-hybrid idlers. The one wrinkle was some initial speed fluctuation that has disappeared with continuous use of the NOS motor. But I need to live with Mr. Metzner for a while – and see how it goes. One test will be to see how much weight this motor can crank without spindle slippage. A five-pound platter with a new Metzner sleeve pressed in would be very nice.

- Mario
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« Reply #1 on: April 14, 2010, 01:04:49 AM »

Mario
That looks grand!  grin
I know it has been a long project, how does it play?

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« Reply #2 on: April 14, 2010, 01:09:35 AM »

Hi Ed,
Thank you. You chimed in during the 5-part upload, so you've got your answer above.
Best,
Mario
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« Reply #3 on: April 14, 2010, 01:22:46 AM »

 shocked  wow, impressive build wink.  that really shows a lot of dedication to this hobby grin.
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« Reply #4 on: April 14, 2010, 01:54:11 AM »

Superb work and a tasteful finish, it looks stunning  thumbsup

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« Reply #5 on: April 14, 2010, 02:00:35 AM »

That's a very impressive process you've been through to develop that turntable and I really like the simple, no-nonsense colour scheme. Congratulations.
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« Reply #6 on: April 14, 2010, 10:57:49 AM »

Very nice, very nice, Mario.  I love the plinth colour and the design of the 'topplate'.
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« Reply #7 on: April 14, 2010, 08:22:42 PM »

Wesley, Nigel, Paul & Ropie,
Thank you, gents.
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« Reply #8 on: April 15, 2010, 12:36:18 AM »

Nothing but class Mario  cool its just cooool !  afro
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« Reply #9 on: April 15, 2010, 02:12:12 AM »

That's quite sexy Mario.  Tasteful and classy.
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« Reply #10 on: May 09, 2010, 10:03:21 PM »

The Metzner Starlight did what it had to over the AudioKarma Fest 2010 – then gave up the ghost.
What it did was to highlight the Golden Age of monaural Hi-Fi  - and did so well at it that we sold hundreds of dollars worth of mono carts and couldn’t hold onto Columbia 6-eye monos even at $2 to $10 bucks a pop.

The Lenco was “relegated” to Stereo playback – and remained in the shadows next to the sunshine of this mono rediscovery.



The Metzner continued on with long hour service, once back home. The floodgates of my own mono purchases had stacks waiting for preview.
Early Thursday, I could distinctly hear speed fluctuations in playback. 12 hours later, an undiagnosed clanking from the drive train signaled the worsening of this turntable’s prime function.
After years of waiting, the Starlight gave me a wonderful weekend fling, only to retreat back to dormancy and possible extinction. At some point, I will disassemble the NOS 52-year-old motor in either a resuscitation attempt or a post-mortem.
But for now, I’ve got to get back to monophonic listening on the quick - and the quickest route back there seems to be a Lenco.

- Mario
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« Reply #11 on: May 09, 2010, 11:06:36 PM »

Mario, that very sad, after such a wonderful build cry
I hope you can find a suitable replacement motor or repair that one.

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« Reply #12 on: May 10, 2010, 02:46:25 AM »

Ahh, Old Man Time makes no exceptions, but the Metzner did it's best and deserves it's rest.  A tip of the hat and a bow of the head for it.  Thank you and sleep well.

Sorry he didn't last very long Mario.  He knew you had poured love over him and tried his best.

Time to retrofit that bad boy?
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« Reply #13 on: May 10, 2010, 05:21:53 AM »

Perhaps it isn't a fatal motor malfunction; but something else, hopefully relatively minor, in the Metzner's rather complex drive system.
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« Reply #14 on: May 10, 2010, 02:39:26 PM »

Ouch, that's rough luck, Mario  sad

I do hope it can be fixed without too much trouble, it's a great looking project.
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