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You raise an interesting point around the finish I should apply to the slate.
I will look at the slate when it arrives (sometime next year) and then decide. Thanks for the thought!
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« Reply #16 on: February 04, 2021, 04:40:05 AM » |
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Slate ordered...
3 X 800mm X 600mm X 30mm tiles from Artedomus in Auckland. Total cost including shipping $412.80.
Time? About 4 months.
Why Artedomus? They supply Brazilian slate which is really good and hard. I find the Chinese supplied slate is much softer and prone to spalling.
The observant may be wondering why 3 pieces of slate? 2 will be involved in the main plinth. The third piece will have the tonearm plinth inserts cut from it for my many arms.
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« Reply #17 on: February 04, 2021, 08:58:05 AM » |
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« Reply #18 on: February 04, 2021, 09:47:55 AM » |
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Smart! Forgive my ignorance - what is the wood, very pretty.
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« Reply #19 on: February 04, 2021, 10:33:48 AM » |
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Smart! Forgive my ignorance - what is the wood, very pretty.
No worries mate..  Here is sandwich-type plinth covered with natural oak 5mm thickness lamella. Arvy. |
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« Reply #20 on: February 04, 2021, 06:26:57 PM » |
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I see this 301 and think that has a wild tiger flavor!
Beautiful!
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« Reply #21 on: February 05, 2021, 11:54:59 AM » |
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The 301 looks magnificent, but I am interested in why you chose to partner it with an Acos Lustre arm? In my experience, there are other arms which are closer to a 301 in terms of quality and performance (without breaking the bank....  .) |
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« Reply #22 on: February 07, 2021, 08:00:01 PM » |
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The 301 looks magnificent, but I am interested in why you chose to partner it with an Acos Lustre arm? In my experience, there are other arms which are closer to a 301 in terms of quality and performance (without breaking the bank.... .) I you choose to go with a 9" arm the Acos Lustre is brilliant - very versatile and easy to adjust. I would rather have a 9 " Acos Lustre than a 9" SME from that period - especially over the SME Improved. Why don't you like the Acos Lustre? |
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« Reply #23 on: February 08, 2021, 03:44:58 PM » |
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Hi Ruben, Many years ago I bought a new Garrard 401 and a new Acos Lustre. I built a plinth for it and used a Shure M75ED2 cartridge. I could never get the arm/cartridge to track the mid or higher bands on the old HFS test disc. This mis-tracking was only too painful to hear when playing music...... I saved-up and bought a SME 3009 S2 Improved. Now the cartridge tracked beautifully and produced great music. Over the years, I have had a few Lustres (attached to various turntables I bought) and they performed as well as my original one did. I've tried them with a variety of cartridges, admitted always high-compliance types, but never got them to perform as well as with the SME. Granted, the Acos is easier to set-up and the detachable headshell is easier to live with, but, as well as performance, these qualities must be taken alongside the appearance of the Acos v SME. IMHO, the SME looks like a piece of fine engineering whereas the Acos is distinctly 'industrial,' bordering on 'agricultural' in comparison. I must say that these days, I would never use a vintage SME 3009. They are vastly over-priced for the performance they provide. If I were buying a Garrard 301 (and spending that kind of money!) I wouldn't dream of using a Lustre with it. Only my opinions, of course.... (btw, at the moment, as well as playing around with Lencos, I use a solid brass CTC 301 with a SME312.) |
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« Reply #24 on: February 08, 2021, 05:34:38 PM » |
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Hi Ruben,
Many years ago I bought a new Garrard 401 and a new Acos Lustre. I built a plinth for it and used a Shure M75ED2 cartridge. I could never get the arm/cartridge to track the mid or higher bands on the old HFS test disc.
This mis-tracking was only too painful to hear when playing music......
I saved-up and bought a SME 3009 S2 Improved. Now the cartridge tracked beautifully and produced great music.
Over the years, I have had a few Lustres (attached to various turntables I bought) and they performed as well as my original one did. I've tried them with a variety of cartridges, admitted always high-compliance types, but never got them to perform as well as with the SME.
Granted, the Acos is easier to set-up and the detachable headshell is easier to live with, but, as well as performance, these qualities must be taken alongside the appearance of the Acos v SME. IMHO, the SME looks like a piece of fine engineering whereas the Acos is distinctly 'industrial,' bordering on 'agricultural' in comparison. My guess is that you have misjudged the Acos because it is a much heavier tonearm. I recently sold my Lustre GST1 but it was positively overengineered compared to my SME 3012 Series II. Much more robust build, better finish all around, terrific bearings and frictionless magnetic antiskating. It looks and feels approximately 10 times better than the SME. Maybe my SME was made on Friday afternoon, who knows. It's a British-made product, after all  I must say that these days, I would never use a vintage SME 3009. They are vastly over-priced for the performance they provide.
I fully agree with this assessment. The classic SME 3009 Series II/S2 is a profoundly mediocre tonearm which is also a pain in the neck to adjust. |
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« Reply #25 on: March 06, 2021, 08:40:50 AM » |
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Dang, run into a real issue.
The SME 3012 is missing the wayrod, weight, and grubscrew and spring. Whilst the weight, screw and spring are not a problem the wayrod is!
So...
Question 1) Is the 3012 wayrod different to the 3009?
Question 2) Does anyone have a 3012 wayrod they can sell me?
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« Reply #26 on: March 06, 2021, 11:17:10 AM » |
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Dang, run into a real issue.
The SME 3012 is missing the wayrod, weight, and grubscrew and spring. Whilst the weight, screw and spring are not a problem the wayrod is!
So...
Question 1) Is the 3012 wayrod different to the 3009?
Question 2) Does anyone have a 3012 wayrod they can sell me?
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« Reply #27 on: March 06, 2021, 11:29:49 AM » |
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« Reply #28 on: March 06, 2021, 03:00:32 PM » |
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Hi,
I have a friend with some SME spareparts, I can check with him if you want?
That would be wonderful. Thank you ever so much! |
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« Reply #29 on: March 09, 2021, 04:32:09 AM » |
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The answer to question 1 is that the 3012 is larger and you cannot swap them.
Which means I'm reduced to trawling through eBay and Trademe (NZ version of eBay) in a futile exercise in hunt the rare as a unicorn's horn thing!
Unless someone can make one for me - I literally had the though whilst typing this up!
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