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« on: July 01, 2024, 05:18:05 PM »

Hi guys.
Apart from the several EMT trannies, what can you recommend that I may not think of.
Typical specs: 24 Ohms and 1mV output.
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« Reply #1 on: July 01, 2024, 06:37:05 PM »

I'm using Lundahl LL1933 configured for step-up ratio 1:8.  I haven't tried any other transformer, but it sounds very good to me.
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« Reply #2 on: July 02, 2024, 03:07:33 AM »

Hi, There's a used EMT unit on Yahoo auctions at present, 1 day left on auction & ridiculously low bid of US$76 at present

https://neokyo.com/en/product/yahoo/q1142179407

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« Reply #3 on: July 02, 2024, 07:06:24 AM »

Thanks guys.
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« Reply #4 on: July 03, 2024, 02:52:44 PM »

Hi Chris

any 1:10 SUT capsule will do the job
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« Reply #5 on: July 03, 2024, 03:37:51 PM »

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« Reply #6 on: July 05, 2024, 02:59:47 PM »

Hi Chris,

you can load your MC cartridge with resistors (and capacitances) applied in the input of an integrated MC phonostage or by using a SUT with no additional tuning of the load by added resistors and/or capacitances) to the SUTs secondary winding or with.

From a technical perspective none of these variants change anything in the MC generators behaviour. It remains always an alternating current generator with a tendency to oscillate and resulting in a high-frequency resonance. This is clearly a non changeable rule in electronics and physics.

At same time one should be driven and motivated by manufacturers specification: HMD025/TMD 25 -> 24 ohms impedance and recommended load at 200 up to 300 ohms because this specification point at what is achievable most: a linear frequency response

A SUT ratio of

  • 1:20 will result in 118 ohms seen by the MC cartridge, what´s far too low
  • 1:10 will result in 470 ohms seen by the MC cartridge, what´s seems to be too high, but even EMT is using a 1:10 SUT in the 155ST phono stage in order to be operated together with their TSD15 (also 24 ohms imedance)
  • 1:13 results in 297 ohms seen by the MC cartridge, what would be right in the specs limits
  • 1:15 results in 297 ohms seen by the MC cartridge,  what would also be right in the specs limits

Cartridge sound changes with how it´s beeing loaded, what equals directly to the SUTs step up ratio, but it´s not telling you anything about the SUTs quality. Furthermore cartridges always sound best when loaded for a linear frequency response, but you won´t detect this in auditioning by having a look at hights or bass performance; differences are with details, timbre and spatiality only.

I´d given several 1:10 as well as other SUTs and capsules a try with my TSD-15 with 1:10 beeing not any nicer/ smarter or bad than SUTs and capsules that are not that easy and cheap to source as 1:13 or 1:15

On other hand you might be lurking for names of capsules and SUTs you might get you hands on and audition them. If so I´d go with

- entré ET-100 (in its 1:10 setting)
- Bryston TF-1 (in its 1:13 setting)
- Tamura TKS-83 (in its 1:10 setting)
- Tamura TKS-22 (in its 1:14 setting)
- Shure inout matching transformer with a ratio of 1:12.5
- Sennheiser TM-003 (1:10)
- Fidelity Research XG-5 (in its 1:13 setting)
- Ortofon T-30 (in its 1:14 setting)
- Denon AU-320 (in its 1:10 setting)
- Technics SH-305 (in its 1:10 setting)
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« Reply #7 on: July 06, 2024, 11:55:49 AM »

The EMT 155st phono amp has a 22 KOhm resistor in series with a 2,7 KOhm resistor at the secondary of the 1:10 SUT. This loads the EMT TSD cartridge with 247 Ohms. The two resistors make a voltage divider which lets you change the output from the SUT to a 1:1 ratio with a jumper if you want to use an earlier OF-series EMT cartridge that has a much higher output.

I use a Lundahl LL1933Ag in 1:8 ratio with my EMT TSD-series cartridges without any resistive loading whatsoever. The signal goes straight from the SUT to the grid of the input valve. Sounds great.
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